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• Looks like I have 18 months to convert my partition table. : Omaha
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        I mained Pop_OS! for a while and it was super polished. You can get away with not having much or any expe... : oceanstate8
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          I've had Pop!_OS fall to finish installing on two different recent systems a year or two apart (so differ... : acidnynex
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            Interesting. My experience was from like late 2023/early 2024. Installation was pretty painless. The only... : oceanstate8
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              • Unfortunately yes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelMIPICamera : oceanstate8
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      Would be great if you could just run SteamOS on the desktop. It's pretty seamless on the Steam Deck. : aethyr
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        Valve says they're working on a standard release of steamOS : Prozium
        • That would definitely be a viable option for gamers if it worked as well as Steam Deck. : aethyr
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          • A version of steamOS that users can install on their own systems, like prior versions of steamOS. You ca... : Prozium
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      Zoom works perfectly fine on Ubuntu. The only downside is that you can't install it using apt or snap and... : ysbreker
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  • Only if you're doing it for the love of the game. Windows 11 is perfectly functional. : i38warhawk
• I've been pushing my clients to start upgrading now because as always they wait till the last minute and ... : ShXIII
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  I'm going to start sliding my windows button a little to the right every month so I'm fully acclimatized ... : Fooldozer
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    haha you can set it to the left in Win11, no biggie : ShXIII
    • OMG thank you. I didn't know that was a setting. : TickHeadDog
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      Yeah, I tried the middle layout for a week or so but ended up going back. It is so convenient being able ... : Skrynkelberg
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        I have become a WinKey convert since Win10. : EvilDolemite
        • Same, Its like 50/50 for me but definitely more since windows 10 : ShXIII
      • I hardly ever use the button because I'm never looking to click something the menu brings up, Winkey and ... : aethyr
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  What's the alternative for all the older PCs that don't meet the TPM and processor requirements for Win11... : someWayne
  • I believe Microsoft said they are going to offer an Extended support subscription for consumers for Windo... : Crimsonbeak
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    At some point they eventually have to cut off old hardware support, it's just the nature of progress. Do ... : deject
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      No, but they would if a 4 year old MacBook couldn't. : Prozium
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        how many 4 year old PCs can't run Windows 11? : deject
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            and they don't have fTPM capabilities? : deject
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                it looks like the 7262 is on the list of CPUs with fTPM, so that sounds like the Dell BIOS is fucking you... : deject
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                  • yeah that's terrible. with the support built into the CPU it's wild that it was even at all possible to c... : deject
              • The EPYC 7262 processor is on the list of supported Windows 11 CPU's. I think it should work. https://... : evildanish
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          Anything kaby lake (7xxx series) or older isn't on the list of supported CPUs. Those launched in Q1 2017.... : Prozium
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            that's not 4 years old, that's 7 years old. I'm not like gonna be all like MS is flawless but like are th... : deject
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              http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=42431135#item_42431135 : Prozium
              • fair point I guess, but like, their choice was driven my security and technical considerations so unless ... : deject
        • First and second gen threadrippers, for example : SLUDGE^
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          Now it's 8 years but win11 launched nearly 3 years ago. : Prozium
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      Yeah, back in the day Microsoft released a Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs for older hardware, it was awesome for functional older hardware, like a new lease on life.

      May 23, 2024 8:17am PDT
      Yeah, back in the day Microsoft released a Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs for older hardware, it was... : someWayne
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    TBF TPM 2.0 is 10 years old and Win11 supports CPUs back to about Coffee Lake, which is almost seven year... : EvilDolemite
    • It's true, that's the inevitable march of progress and tech advancement. : someWayne
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    Use Windows 10? It doesn't get nuked from your system, it just stops getting updates. : TotalFusionOne
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      A modern, Internet connected, operating system no longer receiving security updates is essentially dead. : Prozium
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        That's... Not true at all? Lol it's still functional, with the risks that the user decides to take. : TotalFusionOne
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          Yeah, that's kinda my point. Nobody should really be taking those risks, especially the average user that... : Prozium
          • Nobody has to take those risks, this is about what to do if you don't want to upgrade. : TotalFusionOne
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  Can you turn off any of the win11 features that I’ve been hearing about on privacy reddits? : Demius
  • Probably? I'm pretty sure there's a tool that disables like 34 settings, I forget what it's called though... : acidnynex
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  But my win xp is still good right? : daroach1414
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    Yeah. I don't even like Windows 10 all that much. Could this be the year of the Linux desktop? : nem00
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      Yes, install Arch and never look back : redfive
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        I've never tried Arch. I still just grab Ubuntu out of habit when I need a nix boot. What's it got goijng... : nem00
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          • That's true, and I've been running arch (or light variants like endeavor) for a while. It's great for ... : Conan
    • I've been using it exclusively for over a year. No regrets, : Conan
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  I need to start pushing out Windows 11 to our users soon and I'm dreading it. People do not deal with cha... : m0nkz
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    because change for the sake of change is stupid. Some of the UI decisions are only there so that someone... : skookum_choocher
    • Yeah, I definitely agree with that. The whole disjointed settings menu and control panel is stupid. I gue... : m0nkz
    • oh yeah I'm sure all that telemetry data had nothing to do with it, more like they dropped anything not u... : Halen
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    That being said,I've been using it on my work laptop for 2 years now and I really have no issues besides ... : m0nkz
    • Yeah I work for an MSP and rolling out a change like this is frustrating because of the users themselves.... : ShXIII
  • Honestly they did it at our place and no one seems to really care all that much. and we've got like 90k ... : Halen
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  If you're planning on an enterprise migration to 11, read up on UUP and MCC: https://learn.microsoft.c... : EvilDolemite
  • You down with UUP? : i38warhawk
• At which point I think Microsoft wants you to pay for continued support https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/... : Dr_Cube
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  I’m so excited for the old world to be purged. Unsigned drivers and shit that demands full local ad... : Downforce
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    "But I can't just turn off updates forever!!" : EvilDolemite
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      I showed the CTO the recent security holes. I then said I’m turning off the ability to pause update... : Downforce
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        We actually quarantine people who refuse to update. Don't want to apply the patches we require? Your de... : EvilDolemite
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            YUP. They use VPN here which is dumb, so that is the next step invoking network policy server for all inb... : Downforce
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        • That's always fun :) : HL3dsx
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  I don't like Windows 11. :( : the man with the briefcase
  • https://i.imgur.com/bZ24XWU.png : TotalFusionOne
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  Windows 11 makes me go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-BkrwO_Dck :) : valcan_s
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    Why? : the man with the briefcase
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      Interface design aside, it's got some major improvements under the hood for more modern processors that h... : Halen
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        It also had ads and shoehorned in AI nonsense all over it. I am probably going back to Mac next year… : the man with the briefcase
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          Oh yeah no doubt those things are lame but at least I can turn it off from what I can tell. I wish they o... : Halen
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            I did. You should at least check out some alternatives in a VM. : Conan
            • Oh I always have a copy of Ubuntu running in my esxi server for doing linux-y things and to keep a tab on... : Halen
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          Bro you can turn that all off and you should. I can hook you up on all what to nuke if you want. : valcan_s
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            Why does the company leave it all on by default? My workflow mainly uses web browsers and Adobe Creati... : the man with the briefcase
            • "Why does the company leave it all on by default?" because they are evil corporation. It's the sign of th... : valcan_s
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  I paid for startallback to make Win11 usable : dognose
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    What to hear something crazy!?!?!?1?!? I looooovvvvveeeeeeeeee the new centred task bar and start and how... : valcan_s
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      • Awesome! Same -> "I have also never seen any ads in Win11" I don't know what that is all about other than... : valcan_s
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  • It's very easy to circumvent. : Sludgehead
• imma wait for win 12, thanks : headbone
• Not going to happen. : HL3dsx
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  Shackgoogle can I get Win 11 for free if I'm running Win 10 now? : buzzbat
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    If your hardware supports it you should be seeing notifications about upgrading to win11. : Prozium
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      Thank you shackgoogle. I may have unconsciously skipped that pop up without reading because I always do. : buzzbat
      • You can download it directly https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11 : Sludgehead
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  My GD PC doesn’t meet Windows 11 requirements… which is my punishment for buying a prebuilt f : MatthewPhillips
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    How is that best buy's fault? You would be in the same situation if you bought from dell, falcon Northwes... : Prozium
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      My two previous PCs were homemade by a local computer guy, and I could always upgrade them with ease. Wh... : MatthewPhillips
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        Even if you bought that system from your custom builder you would still be in the same custom. An i7 7700... : Prozium
        • All very good points, and also a lesson learned for me. I should have spent the extra $$ to have it custo... : MatthewPhillips
  • Meh, just bypass the checks. : sanchez
• challenge accepted : mr.sleepy
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    What's the issue? All i9 CPUs are officially supported for win11. Might just need to change a bios settin... : Prozium
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        I think you should be okay as long as the windows install is already booting through UEFI and not "legacy... : Prozium
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      • You don't actually need secure boot enabled for Win11, the system just needs to be in a state where you c... : Toraz Chryx
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